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Do you think City Manager Eric Anderson's goal of reducing crime in Tacoma by 50 percent in 14 months is realistic?

Yes
39% (45 votes)
No
61% (70 votes)
Total votes: 115
Submitted by ttownt on June 25, 2008 - 6:06pm.

I have long wondered why, when we assign public defenders, we don't also assigned a social worker. Crime is a “symptom” of social behavior issues; whether that be poverty, gangs (self-esteem), family background (crime may have been encouraged), mental health, and many more I could list.

Want to cut crime 50%?- Increase social services by 25% not police … I don’t know what research has been done on this, but I’d place a bet on it. Maybe Tacoma/Pierce County should be the place to do this research. I think Tacoma Cares … I think we could do this!

I moved here a year ago and I think Tacoma is one of the most progressive resident involved communities I’ve ever seen. I recently completed a CERT class and there were two others from my neighborhood. Tacoma’s free/reduced health clinics are accessible, but overwhelmed. I could keep going on the good stuff … let’s make it good or better for everyone // Let’s fight Classism .. Care Tacoma!


Submitted by frankiethomas on June 25, 2008 - 9:11pm.

liberal - which I used to be, maybe I still am, but drifitng right: We have to give it to them so they won't steal it is another way of saying "increase social services not police." No classism - if they have the same as me but I earned it and they got it off my taxes? That doesn't make everyone equal. I care, I really do, and I work with kids that are have-nots so they can break the cycle of poverty. But they have choices to make as they get older, and to tell them they are victims of their circumstances and deserve a handout sells THEM short.


Submitted by ttownt on June 26, 2008 - 12:25pm.

I first want to applaud you for making a difference in the life of "have-nots" and consequently the lives of all. I also want to thank you for your response, because the best way to –believe- what you –believe- is to have it challenged.
----- You are right, that excuses don’t get anyone to a better place. Each one of us has challenges in our life which excuses won’t fix. At times, all of us need assistance. --- What about families were drugs and alcohol are given to children as a reward –sometimes in their bottle, for successive generations? Or were poverty is a result of other’s actions? Do these kids and eventually adults really have the same “choice strategies” without intervention and assistance into adulthood?
---- “Success” is a social measurement – what measurement are we using? Only through aggressive caring can we ever hope to reach the minds and teach “success” and “choice strategies” not only to the youth, but to the elders in the communities and the parent(s) who may not have job skills or education – WHO CARES?
---- I’m talking to ME too! It was not ‘till I understood “wealth distribution and how this affects our laws (who is a criminal and why), that this made any since to me (ck out this website - http://www.lcurve.org/) … BTW I voted for Regan both times, because the church said “he prayed” LOL – we all get our information and “choice strategies” messed up sometimes.
---- It is interesting that you would say “give it to them so they won't steal“, in response to my call for “fighting classism”. The fact that you look at your job and the small percent of your taxes that go to social services as you somehow giving them a living “off [your] taxes “ is ironic. Those who live in poverty actually are more likely to be victims of crime.
---- Again ... I think you are a great citizen! I am glad you are in my community. I am proud to call you my neighbor. I think you care – thank you.


Submitted by Morf on May 14, 2008 - 6:18am.

There's no reason this couldn't work. There's a lot more to reducing crime than more cops and jails. If we kept an eye on our own neighborhoods a 50% reduction would be no problem.

Most crime is committed by kids. Parents need to know where their kids are!

The old style walking patrolmen would help as well.


Submitted by CrazyDre26 on April 23, 2008 - 11:22pm.

50% is a huge reduction for such a short amount of time. Such drops have occurred in other cities--just over longer periods of time. New York City's crime rate has dropped by about 70% in the past decade, making it the safest large city in the country. Hopefully, the City Manager will adopt some of NYC's methods to try to reduce the crime here.

I'm guessing that we won't get 50%. I think most people would be happy with anything in the double digits, though.


Submitted by Philbob79 on April 29, 2008 - 10:53pm.

I do not advocate death squads, especially having lived in parts of the world where they are used. But short of roving bands of "shoot first, ask no questions" police the 50% mark is a bit ambitious.


Submitted by papasan on April 23, 2008 - 8:10pm.

I agree with jake840.
They can't respond, if they don't know.
Be a citizen.
Report potholes
Report overgrown lots and rights of way.
If speeding is a problem in your neighborhood, report it, have it surveyed, talk with your neighbors, ORGANIZE.
Got a neighbor kid racing up and down the street? talk with his folks. They're your neighbors, get to know them.
If everyone sits on their butts and complains, nothing gets done.
Frankly, I don't think that 50% is doable. But what will doing nothing get us?


Submitted by willcole on April 23, 2008 - 6:10pm.

Yep, but your going to need more dirt. Lets see if I understand what you are saying. You are going to or atleast say that you are to reduce crime by 50%. The question might be for how long and in what area of crime and in what sector of Tacoma. You could lock up the ten... worst affenders for 30 days and that would amount to a significant percentage..... as we have seen before. A better idea would be to send them to a gulf state or New York as they might not even notice a small increase in the crime rate. Better yet give them the oportunity to serve their county in Iraq for say 10 years with no paroll. Since they are trying to support their habits to servive what better way.


Submitted by hilltopmom on April 23, 2008 - 10:25am.

If he had set a goal of 10%, no one would have even noticed, no one would be thinking about it, life would go on as usual. But with this, people are paying attention, thinking outside the box, and looking for new ways to fight back against crime in our city. I love the "we can do it" mentality. It's a refreshing break from the normal status quo complacency that is drowning America these days. Tell me where to sign up and what I should be doing to help.


Submitted by the3rdpigshouse on April 22, 2008 - 8:45pm.

With a shrinking police presence and a waning desire by the police and the courts in the areas of apprehension and adequate punishment - I'll put my bet on the bad guys!! The challenge is out there - prove me wrong!!


Submitted by jrbj_999 on April 22, 2008 - 3:52pm.

There are too many nay sayers in the world and a lot of them live in Tacoma. If you say a thing is impossible it is self fulfilling that it won't happen. Instead of thinking of all the reasons this idea won't work, lets think of ways to make it happen. City Manager Anderson can't do it by himself, he needs all the citizens of Tacoma to stand behind him and help him. If we do that we will see a Tacoma that is far different and far better than the one we have today. If we don't work to make it happen the result will be our collective fault.


Submitted by jake840 on April 22, 2008 - 10:52am.

I think we can do it. Murders are way down for the year already. (1 in Tacoma compared to about 10+ in Seattle)

What can citizens do?

Report crime. Report Blight!

Go to TacomaServices.org and click on "Citizen Request"

Vacant Lot in your neighborhood overgrown? (over 2' weeds,brush,grass) turn it in.

Potholes ? turn them in

Dangerous Building? Turn it in

Junk Car? turn it in

Streetlights out? Turn it in

Tacoma right now is complaint based/driven. You complain and the city will fix the problem. The city does not go looking for the problem.

Another small thing is getting street lights in your alley. They cost about $10 a month. Get a few neighbors together and get 2-3 for the alley block and it can make a difference. Call Tacoma Power for more info.

Pick up garbage in your neighborhood.

Crime breeds on bad environments. Clean it up and crime will leave . It is almost guaranteed


Submitted by hilltopmom on April 23, 2008 - 10:28am.

Thanks for the practical suggestions. I didn't even know there was a place to turn in most of those things. That helps.


Submitted by speakout on April 22, 2008 - 9:15am.

A 50% reduction in crime says to me that 50% of the typical ordinary expected daily crime won't happen, not that they will be arresting that many more after they commit some criminal act.
But unless the criminals co-operate by not committing crime or by leaving town to do it elsewhere this pie in the sky dream is not going to happen. But as I mentioned before it IS an Election year and that's prime ground for p[r]imping and promising.
I'm starting to wonder what kinds of drugs the politicians are getting these days, does this signal a move away from Meth back into hallucinogens?

But the biggest question still looms, will the criminals agree to stop 50% of their activities before the deadline?


Submitted by mustangnorm on April 22, 2008 - 9:04am.

IM ALL FOR IT, LETS DO IT.


Submitted by troublemaker on April 22, 2008 - 8:16am.

I think our City Manager ought to be commended for being bold and optimistic. For too long, Tacoma has been too cautious, too focused on why ambitious approaches won't work. This goal would dramatically improve the quality of life for everyone in the City, except the bad guys. And it will reinvent police work, and move it much closer to the kinds of community policing that work long term. What's not to like? How can we help?


Submitted by CarmenL on April 22, 2008 - 7:31am.

Setting the bar is a fine idea...it becomes unattainable when you factor in our liberal courts and overcrowded jail. If you can't prosecute and you can't house you end up with a revolving recidivism rate.


Submitted by beerBoy on April 24, 2008 - 5:25am.

liberal courts and overcrowded jail. If you can't prosecute and you can't house
.
How is it possible that "liberal courts" aren't prosecuting AND the jail is overcrowded? Are they using the jail for condos and the rush of yuppies for affordable housing is squeezing out the criminals?


Submitted by tacomacityresident on April 24, 2008 - 5:32am.

Courts do not prosecute, they pass judgements.


Submitted by beerBoy on April 24, 2008 - 5:38am.

pick, pick, pick.


Submitted by patty46 (not verified) on April 22, 2008 - 7:30am.

I do believe with the help of Tacoma citizens we can take back our streets from the druggies and gang pukes. It has worked for me in my area I rely on our code inspector and liaison officer. we have closed down 4 drug houses.


Submitted by follow_PC on April 22, 2008 - 6:26am.

The problem with people is not that they set their goals to high and miss - but that they set their goals too low and hit them. Thanks for being bold. Eric - Don't listen to the nay-sayers.


Submitted by citylies on April 21, 2008 - 1:00pm.

$100.00 says he won't make it. Starting now he has until 6-21-09.


Submitted by logicmonster on April 21, 2008 - 9:01pm.

If the goal is 50% and he only achieves 22%, I won't consider that a failure. But if the goal is 6% and he only achieves 4%, that would seem to me to be an abject failure.


Kudo's to Mr. Anderson for challenging Tacoma to think big.


Submitted by CrazyJim on April 21, 2008 - 1:04pm.

What can we do as citizens to help it along? Take bets?


Submitted by yabetchya on April 21, 2008 - 9:09pm.

yabethcya!


Submitted by citylies on April 21, 2008 - 1:06pm.

Chicken.


Submitted by witchiwoman on April 22, 2008 - 6:33am.

I'll bet $5 that they make it. And all proceeds of the bets should go to the Community Liason fund.


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