She's not going to win the nomination by any means, but the last 3 contests need to be played out. Otherwise, she will start claiming she was forced out right before the finish line by all those mean ol' boys... Waaahhh!!! Let the process play out completely, so everyone can see how she lost fair and square.

~~Cheryl

HAAAAA..thats funny....George Bush in disguise...haaaaaaaaa.

Allright, been a long day, finally getting around to this one. At least it gave me the impetus to seek out more current sources, since the ones I already had were kinda stale, much like the issues raised here. No matter, gets me in shape for the general: One, two, three, ONE! One, two, three, TWO!


Jr. BJ says: "Barack Obama calls for radical change in government and that scares the heck out of me." Really? Whyever for? If Bu$h's record isn't enough to convince you that this country desperately needs a change in the way things are done in Washington, then I want whatever you're drinking! Although I can say right now, it's gotta be Kool-Aid...


"Obama's programs will most likely cause our national indebtedness to double"... Which programs in particular? On what do you base your figures?


"Obama has established a track record of misjudgment after misjudgment from using drugs in his youth"... Okay, here we're getting to the good stuff. First, I want a president who has better judgment now than he had in college! Do you deserve to be evaluated on what you thought and did over two decades ago? Me either. And neither does he.


"...to preferring socialist professors while in college..." This is a new one on me. Please be specific: which professors, and how did he "prefer" them?


"...to associating with William Ayers..." AHA! Well why don't we just take a better look at this "association," hmm? Article concludes: "This whole connection is a stretch," Harrington told me. "Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns."


"...and Tony Rezco..." [sic] Please read 8 things you need to know about Rezko. Something the article omits: the reason the two deals closed at the same time was because the seller stipulated it. Very common in real estate -- I have experienced the same challenge myself recently.


"...to attending what is clearly a black activist church pastored by a black nationalist pastor..." Finally, another opportunity to post Obama's wonderful speech on race, hailed as one of the most important political speeches of our generation. He explains himself very clearly there. Go ahead, listen -- please!


"...to showing his clear elitist concepts in his remarks about blue-collar, white Americans clinging to their guns and religion..." I'll resist the temptation to echo Jon Stewart's sentiment (I want somebody in there who's smarter than me!!) and instead refer you to Rachel Maddow's comments on the issue, which echo my own sentiments exactly, only she's cuter, for you guys.


"...[Michelle] has remarked that Obama's campaign is the first time she has been proud to be an American..." Is it true that "independents" never really read or research what they're talking about? No, can't be, 'cause I'm an independent. Regardless, let me just say that you have badly misquoted our next First Lady. What she said was that right now, for the first time in her adult life, she is really proud of our country. And she was talking about the level of political involvement she's seen among people who were heretofore disenfranchised and disillusioned. People like me (yes, I wrote to her, and yes I received a personal written letter) who have never before cared a whit about politics, rolling up their sleeves and diving into the often slimy trenches of our political process.


And you know what else? I am an Iraq war veteran, having honorably served my country in combat. Am I a patriot? You'd better say yes, unless you've outdone me on the putting-one's-life-on-the-line score. Am I always proud of America? NO. We can do sooo much better... Do I love my country? You'd better believe it -- I wouldn't be investing so much time, energy, money, and personal convenience into electing the RIGHT president this time if I didn't.


"Our next President will have to hit the deck running without taking time to deal with a learning curve first." Abraham Lincoln, one of our greatest presidents, had less experience upon taking office than Obama. On the other hand, "experience" has given us Rumsfeld and Cheney. If you believe these characters have been good for America, then I'm afraid we have no further basis for discussion, because we're living in different universes.


~~Cheryl

I'm sure you believe what you have written, and you are entitled to that opinion as all Americans (except citylies) are entitled to have an opinion.
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However, you sound like the republican noise machine. You have bought into every lie, half-truth and mis-representation that the likes of Lush Rumbaugh and Luffa Bill have to offer.
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The simple fact is, that democrats are the party of fiscal responsibility. The whole indebtedness, deficit spending thing is high art of the Reagan, Bush and Bush the lesser administrations.
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And it is just silly to think anything good of McCain. He lacks any morals, ethics, self-esteem, and good judgment. Once he actually has a candidate running against him, he will not be able to hide from his past (unless of course the corporate media bury everything about him the way they did with Bush the lesser).
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The simple fact is this country will not survive another republican administration. And that is what you will get from McCain and most likely Clinton as well.

but he's usually far left. The country may not handle another limp wristed republican well, but it will by no means be the end of the USA. The country does need a conservative strong leader who will not cower to the libs and their government media complex. A leader who speaks the truth plainly, and clearly speaks a conservative vision for the future. All others are lame salesmen in empty suits.

good comments.

"Obama's programs will most likely cause our national indebtedness to double"
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Have you noticed our indebtedness has done under the current American "CEO"?
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FREEDOM? ALL of it.

found this gem:
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"Barack Obama calls for radical change in government and that scares the heck out of me." Followed by a whole bunch of guilt by association paranoia.
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Do tell - what "radical change" has Obama called for?

What would she be resigning from....the US Senate? I would accept that. I'm not sure you can "resign" from being your own campaign....maybe stop, suspend or quit. Resign just sounds funny, like she is already the candidate.

None of these candidates are LEADERS. None will solve any problem, no matter who gets in.

Obama is a GREAT leader. Look how he's leading all of us now.

He is a good orator that's all.All words.
Adolf Hitler was a great Orator too.

at speaking! Every time I watch him he stammers and pauses as though trying to come up with something people would like versus being right and having the courage of any convictions of his own.

LIKE A PIED PIPER..excuse any misspelled. OBAMA is dangerous and his followers are Nieve.

WE don't let our leaders think for us so that all we have to do is shout "Ditto!" at our radios in the morning.
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WE, many of us Obama supporters, are Independents, who think for ourselves.
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Mr. Limbaugh holds the Pied Piper title, and proudly I might add. He loves to crow about how his listeners don't think, they just repeat after him.

with all due respect I listen to both sides and I THINK FOR MYSELF and just listening I make up my own mind. I didn't get this far in life by mimicking others thoughts...but I also visit and talk to alot of people and they pretty much feel the same. We don't have excellent choices but OBAMA would be scarey. If you are a Mother do have a good day:) We are as a GREAT NATION in some real testing times. Oh and believe it or not I said "PIED PIPER" before Rushy!

Why do you keep saying Obama is scary? You say it over and over but don't say why. I'm sincerely curious.
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If you don't have a definitive answer, I'm going to find it hard to take it seriously when you say he's scary. It just sounds like citylies shouting KHAOS over and over with nothing else to say.

The KHAOS is all around you, and engulfing the nomination process. I am enjoying it at Obama's expense. There. There's more on khaos.

Nobody reads Broder. He is just too irrelevant.

"Good points!"

"Obama is a GREAT leader. Look how he's leading all of us now".
He doesn't even have enough delegates to win the nomination of his party yet.

since you're slowed down. The delegates are letting the primary season play out to keep the party together. It's a courtesy. Nothing more.
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Obama has the delegates. Never fear.

Don't worry, I'll have my popcorn ready sitting on my couch watching the "Big show in Denver". It will rival the Olympic Games!

the guy is an empty suit. He couldn't dance his way out of a wet paper bag.

It's 3 a.m. Who do you want answering the phone?


Not John McCain, say some military leaders: "I think his knee-jerk response factor is a little scary."

FOR SURE not OBAMA!

Why?

And worrisome at the same time, re: McCain. But it will come out into the public eye as the race focuses on two instead of three.

....Or should I say, REstarted. I used to comment here all the time, but campaign demands pulled me away for a while. I'm still active in the campaign, a PCO, 29th LD Obama Captain, and a delegate to the 6th CD Caucus in Shelton next Saturday, and have thrown my hat in for National (although I may gladly cede that honor to some who have invested even more than me in this grand effort to turn our ship of state toward brighter horizons).


Yes WE can!!


~~Cheryl

yes we can what?? It is SCAREY!

Black people will not rise up and mow you down. Life will go on. Things will get better.
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Obama is not a tax and spend liberal, despite what Fox News and AM 570 say over and over. Obama is actually very moderate and level headed, not to mention extremely intelligent.

if black people would do that then I would be afraid of my own family! PLEASE.....was that racist comment witchiwoman? I would hope not:)

See what happens when I assume? I get to eat crow. But please don't divert me from the essence of my thought. I respect that you are a conservative, whatever color you may be. Respect my beliefs too. I don't object to conservatism. Just to name calling and fact twisting to spread chaos. And I'm not too fond of shouting at each other as a form of debate either.

If white people would do that....

Glad you're back. Sometimes I feel kind of alone here, politically.

Now we have the same old, worn-out, debunked, refuted arguments and claims to contend with (although in a way, it's probably a blessing in disguise that the primary season has dragged on for so long, because we're gonna be deflecting the same old crapola from the McSame crowd starting in just a few weeks). I don't have time right now to write the paragraphs I have inside me, rebutting all these broad references, but will check this thread again later and see where it's gone in the meantime.


~~Cheryl

so who or what was your name before ?.

witchiwoman was referring to Lucky Charm aka Cheryl when she wrote "glad you are back".

but witchiwoman was not around when cheryl was posting. so she must of posted under another name she knows about many of us here ! but that's fine I like her /him seams to be a very nice person. I was just curious.

So, do you think that everyone here posts under multiple names and holds discussions between their sock puppets? Hmmmm....isn't that what you are accused of doing?

Cheryl aka Lucky Charm said in her post that she was REstarting and had been away on the campaign trail. So I said, "Glad you are back." It was just a courtesy statement. I don't know her personally.

from a man who shouts DITTO!! at the radio in the mornings.
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And you're entitled to it, I might add.

Well said!

know! Always.