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Should University of Washington football coach Tyrone Willingham be fired?

Yes
74% (108 votes)
No
26% (38 votes)
Total votes: 146
Submitted by glenbdog1 on October 1, 2008 - 12:11pm.

Lot of good football programs around the Nation. UW should be compiling
a list of all the good assisant coaches. Fire TW and all his coaches at seasons
end. Start the new coach selection process immediately thereafter.

UW football program has been an embarrassment for too many seasons.


Submitted by dmxtre on October 1, 2008 - 11:08am.

a employee isn't performing his expected duties he/she should be let go....one major apsect of being a coach is to win. I think the more important job is to ensure his/her players are actually being educated instead of taking basket weaving 101 classes!!!!


Submitted by dave44 on September 30, 2008 - 11:52pm.

It doesn't matter who the coach is. The Huskies will never return to the glory years. With all the media negitivity and the Sea Chickens the talk of the town the Huskies can't recruit the big time athletes. I watched the Ducks grow from zero wins every season to where they are today. My advice to the new AD would be go to Eugene and in short order it will be obvious why the Ducks have passed up the Huskies athletic programs.


Submitted by nighthawk2 on September 30, 2008 - 3:00pm.

Not a Husky fan, so personally they can keep Willingham around for another ten years and suck for ten more years for all I care. But I've seen this guy on the sidelines, listened to his press conferences, and I have never seen or heard a more lifeless, emotionless, less inspiring coach or leader of any kind in my life. The players must live on No Doze to keep awake in his pre-game speeches and post-game postmortems. He gives no indication of caring. There is no fire during games, no passion or anger or frustration in his press conferences. No inspiration, no leadership. Who would want to play for an automaton like that?


Submitted by sandmanmj99 on September 30, 2008 - 12:20pm.

Whether at the end of the season or sooner, he'll be gone. I supported him getting a fourth year to try and get it together, but now he's run out of time and we can't spend another year trying to make it work. He's a good man, a decent recruiter and a good judge of character, which is something Slick Rick wasn't, but in this game you still have to win. Ty hasn't won here, and I don't think he ever will. I believe after what happened to him at Notre Dame, he wasn't mentally or emotionally prepared himself to go and challenge these kids to become the type of players we all hope they will be. Combine that with the scheduling of the past three years, which has been abysmal and a detriment to the rebuilding of the program because these young kids are getting their tails handed to them by older, more experienced players at big time programs. A 7-5 season could have saved Ty, but that's gotta be out the door now.


Submitted by brewsjam4 on September 30, 2008 - 11:55am.

I too heard the TV commentators mention how good the dawgs will be in two years when all these true freshmen are true juniors. It seems we've been hearing that for 4 years now: "we're rebuilding...gotta give it time." The seeds for this season's 0-4 start began in the first two years of the Tyrone era. The fact that most of our D-line and receivers...and running backs are right out of high school seems like an indicator of poor planning (okay, and maybe some bad luck; but top 20 schools arent supposed to whine about the athletes that didn't pan out).

I wasn't excited about the Wilingham hire 4 years ago because when he was on the other sidelines (stanford and ND), I never thought UW had to worry about being outcoached. I've supported Ty for the last few years, but that's running out pretty quickly. I do sense an increase in passion with some players, so that is an encouraging trend, but improvement has just been far too incremental.


Submitted by courtneytucker on September 30, 2008 - 11:43am.

Viewing the Huskies from afar through DirecTV as a transplanted Tacoman and UW graduate (’67) living in Tully, New York just south of Syracuse gives me a perspective others may appreciate. I am also a season ticket holder for Syracuse football, which allowed me the pleasure of seeing Jake Locker’s UW debut last year. I have seen Syracuse play Iowa, Rutgers, Louisville, Penn State, Pittsburg, West Virginia and South Florida over the last three years. I understand what it takes to be a bad team. Former Syracuse Coach Pasqualoni was fired in 2004 for not being “exciting” but his departure also lost SU one of his recruits, QB Colt Brennan, who we Huskies know can play the position. Change is not always good.

It is very clear to me that Coach Ty Willingham and his staff are on the right track with the Huskies in all phases of football. He is playing young players. The offensive line is growing stronger and more effective, and I expect with time and new recruits that the linebackers and the defensive line will improve to help Daniel Te’o-Nesheim and Don Butler. The “skill position” freshmen and sophomores at quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end and in the secondary indicate that the team will be much improved next year. Coach Willingham needs two more years to get to the point that he can play mostly juniors and seniors, a common characteristic of all top 20 teams. I have seen what a killer schedule can do to a team in person at Syracuse. Seriously, how many other teams would have won against Oregon, BYU and Oklahoma to start the year? It would have been tough for Alabama, LSU or USC. Stability with quality is a necessity. Coach Ty and this increasingly effective coaching staff need to stay and finish the job.


Submitted by fragoso on September 30, 2008 - 9:12am.

I was very much in favor of ty coming to seattle, but after watching a once proud university reduced to a laughing stock of the pack 10 and the college world i say is time to go. Start looking for a new coach now, and wave goodbye to the keystone cop.


Submitted by MichaelD98409 on September 30, 2008 - 8:41am.

I watched the game off/on Sat. I'm not a big football fan and when I did watch the game I would notice that you Ty, looked lost to me. Looked like the offensive co-ordinator was the one calling all the plays and you standing next to him. Don't see Mike Holmgren doing that.

People were venting that Jake was laughing on the sidelines. I saw a few other players doing the same.

Oh yeah, KJR... you need to cut back on 11 hours of programming for one game. That is overkill! The pre/post crap with Softy and the other two stooges is just plain bad.

Microwave popcorn?


Submitted by alex286 on September 30, 2008 - 10:39am.

Thanks for the comments, everyone. I actually appreciate the KJR coverage. Call it a sort of healing mechanism for me after each game, which lasts all the way until I can find the comfort of sleep on Saturday nights. My 8 year-old daughter is just as big a fan as me, and it's getting harder and harder to explain to her why we just can't win a game despite all the hype about our "athletes" and despite our super loyal fan base. When she goes to Husky Stadium with me, she sees all the tradition and all the enthusiasm - no doubt we have the best setting and the best fans in the country. But she also notices the grim situation around Ty Willingham and the fact that no matter how good we perform in the first half, our team always, always implodes in the second. She's confused as to why we keep doing the same things over and over again expecting a different result. It dawned on me the other night as we sat in the north stands under the lights...Isn't that the definition of insanity?

I am a first-time season ticket holder this year. I must say, I'm not surprised. I consider myself a knowledgeable Husky fan, and a fan of college football in general. Going into the season I knew we'd be on the lower end of the conference, but I thought we'd at least beat Stanford, given our performance against them last year. Look how energetic and pumped up our players seemed at the beginning of the game. You could almost feel their energy. But as soon as things went south, they not only lost their energy, they started to work against themselves. We've seen it every game going back to Arizona last season. How else can you explain the fact that we competed on every level with Ohio State and Southern Cal when they came here last year? In both instances, as with almost every other game last season, we were our own worst enemy when it mattered.

Cohesion, initiative, stamina, determination, toughness, will to win -- these are all attributes that nobody is born with, including football players. As I learned back in Pee Wee and prep football, it is the coach who instills these principles in his players. Ty Willingham is what I call a 50% coach. He talks a lot but he doesn't deliver. He says good things about character-building, but he has not convinced his players that when they step on the field, they are on a mission that must be completed.

A good article appeared in the News Tribune recently comparing Willingham to Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh. Harbaugh is generally doing satisfactorily as a second-year rebuilding coach. But Willingham is nearing the end of his contract and his performance is worsening by the hour. Not only that, but he's taking kids like Jake Locker, Jermaine Kearse, and Kavario Middleton, whom I watched play fierce high school ball, and he's letting their potential futures slip away. I truly believe, after trying to give this a lot of objective thought for the last couple years, that Willingham is an obstacle to these kids' success. Whatever he did to lure these top athletes to our program - whatever he told them to convince them to play at UW - he's not delivering on his part of the bargain.

Bottom line: the UW program should be in the national spotlight right now as a dominant football program and one that should be competing for the PAC-10 championship, possibly even a Top 25 spot. Anyone who thinks differently, even with the number of freshman on this team, is kidding themselves. Ty Willingham is the reason why this isn't happening. I honestly believed he should be given this full season before being evaluated for possible dismissal. But after the four games I've watched this year, I now am convinced that Ty Willingham neither has any answers for the team's deficiencies, nor is he appropriate to lead the Huskies any longer. I think the players, the fans, the program, and the future of UW football deserve a lot more and I think it's no longer necessary to "play out" the rest of the season to make the decision. It's obvious what needs to happen. It's in the team's best interest to get it out of the way right now.

You may not like the fact that college football is so competitive and that so much is centered around winning, but that's the system we must deal with. At UW, our football program is the pulse of the entire athletic world, funding our other major sports programs as well. With all of that riding on our future as a national powerhouse, and with many of us wanting perks like stadium upgrades, we simply can't accept mediocrity -- right now we're not even accepting that. We're trying to be politically correct for the sake of giving a guy a chance. He's had his chance. And he's taking us in the wrong direction. If President Emmert and AD Woodward want to keep filling our seats on game day, they need to be fiduciaries for the UW community and just make it happen. If we were a .500 type of team, that would be one thing. But we're hovering around dead last in the nation in just about every category. When is enough enough?


Submitted by turp63 on September 30, 2008 - 8:24am.

You sir are no Tony Dungy...


Submitted by timpc3 on September 30, 2008 - 8:06am.

Ty should have been let go after last season. By opting for restraint and another season to let him try turn the program around, the university has only delayed for an additional year UW's return to respectability on the football field.

It's too late for this year. I vote to *make* Ty suffer through his final season - bound at this point to be no more than a two-win affair. The Huskies are horribly coached and it shows in every facet of the game.

He says it's not microwave popcorn - the problem is the Huskies are no better today than they were when he showed up.

If I were in charge, I'd tell Ty this is it. Enjoy yourself, do the best you can ... but, come December, you're unemployed.


Submitted by mccullom on September 30, 2008 - 7:37am.

I don't think that firing in midseason would benefit anyone at this point, but I do feel like he should be let go after this season is over. I might be selfish in saying this, but if your job title is Head Football Coach, your job description is to WIN football games. Your job is not to be a model of human morality or mature professional, unless that helps you win games. Clearly, it doesn't.


Submitted by dhall058 on September 30, 2008 - 6:46am.

Coach Willingham was the right person to restore the "moral compass" of the UW football program. He is a class act, and his players reflect the Coach's example in their own professional, mature demeanor. So let's follow Coach Willingham's example by not pandering to the mob calling for his head. Instead, the UW athletic director should have a quiet conversation with Coach Willingham, which will lead to the Coach announcing his resignation in a dignified manner befitting his service to the UW. And above all, the UW should not replace Coach W. with another Neu-weasel type head coach with IDD (Integrity Deficit Disorder)! Go Dawgs!!!


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